Screw you Carol Vorderman, and screw your detox. Shove it up your sorry wheat free behind.

There, that's better.

Last night, we (that is easterbunny and myself) were bad.

Well, very bad.

So, one cheeseburger, dos equis and glass of wine later, I'm feeling a much more well rounded human being. For lunch I will have a sandwich, containing meat, dairy, wheat and lots of fat. So there. And a coffee (to misquote Chandler from friends "Ah, dark mistress, once again I suckle at thy teat!").

I'm a quitter, but as it goes I'm fine with that. Life is supposed to be experienced, and eating is one of the experiences I enjoyed the most. The detox diet is bereft of joy and so I thumb my nose at it.

We still have the very green contents of the fridge to finish, and we've discovered some tasty, yet healthy options which we can add in to our diet, however I shall most certainly be having some ESB and a steak on Thursday at The Star. So there.

In other news, I just ranted at one of those annoying 'accost you in the street charity people' about the fact I don't like being accosted in the street. Does this make me a bad person? But stop, surely this is a fine opportunity for my first poll!

Am I evil incarnate?

Yes, you ill spirited fiend.
No, they are obviously cads and should leave us well alone.

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while i agree you are evil incarnate. it has to be said they are fucking annoying. therss always a new set everyday on kensington high street. i really wanted to vote for both options
I'm happy for charities to do whatever they feel necessary to raise funds. I'm glad there are people out there who care enough about the miriad issues out there which I do not and I'm happy to support those which I believe worthy or most needy. What I object to is the fact that the companies running these schemes take a significant amount of money for each sign-up and that the people on the streets are heavily commission based.

My hope is that people will become sufficiently pissed off at these methods that the sign-ups will drop off and it will be come uneconomic. All we need is the public to have a little backbone and market forces will out!
inded that is my objection to to them as well mainly. but then again they can fuck right off and leave me alone while im trying to get my lunch
You noticed the sudden convention of blind musicians? There were 2 bongo players and an acordianist the other day.
thnakfully i didnt. otherwise i might have gooen offf the deep end and started killing pedestrains.
I don't mind sticking some money in a tin and I don't mind answering the odd question for Market Research. But these people are after BANK DETAILS!!!! IN THE MIDDLE OF VICTORIA STREET!!!!


Sorry, I obviously needed to let that one go. Or something.

Ah yes, but who moderates the moderators. In my case my lizard brane and its deep and primal need for steak, and beer, and coffee. I'm so weak. :)
not as weak as beth though. rm,eebr she cracked first. even though we treid to tempt you with tasty beer
meh. i eat what food i can find. sometimes this involved vegan cheese and lettuce other times it does not. Bah, who am i kdding - i wouldn't let vegan cheese past my lips if there was still a warm blooded creature walking the earth that i could catch and tear the legs off.

in other news, you are and ill spirited fiend (and well done for it), but people who accost you in the street who where one of those bib things that they have to check every ten minutes to remind themselves of what charity their agency has sold them to for the day should be tied up with a forementioned bibs, beaten with their clipboards and then dumped in the north sea.

other people who hassle you in the street? they;re mainly nutters, and i think they should just go with whatever voice is loudest today.
I applaud your actions. Chuggers are not normal people with feelings to be hurt - they are grinning ninnies set on relieving you of money that will only be used to pay even more chuggers to clog up the high street.

And anyway, what kind of cretin hands over their bank details to a complete stranger in the street? Are we so unassertive that we will put our financial security at risk rather than say "No thank you, I'm not interested"?

Good on you, young man. Keep up the good work.
what kind of cretin hands over their bank details to a complete stranger in the street?

That would be me - I've signed up to two charities that way (ActionAid and ADD). I don't see any intrinsic problem in that, since it's the same information that's printed on all my cheques (account name, account number, sort code, bank address), so it's only the fact that I'm agreeing to a direct debit that actually costs me money. And my understanding is that you need to be a vaguely reputable company to be able to accept direct debits.

That said, I have made some gullible mistakes in the past, and I wasn't aware of the commission aspect to it. But I think that:

money that will only be used to pay even more chuggers

is a bit of an exaggeration - some of the money goes to the people with clipboards, but some also goes to the charity concerned. I think it's a similar principle to using an agency for recruitment or flat-hunting - they get the first X months of money, and then everything after that goes to the "real" recipient. So, in my case, if I cancelled the direct debits then I'd only be hurting the charity rather than the admin company.

I'm also not entirely sold on the term "chuggers" (i.e. "charity muggers"), as coined by the media. I'd say that Robin Hood would fall into that category - taking money off people at knife-point, then giving it away to the poor. But in a situation like this, there is no threat of violence, explicit or implied. I think that when you refer to a simple request as mugging, you dilute the effectiveness of the original meaning. ("Help, I've just been mugged!" "Who hasn't?")

In the interest of balance, I should say that I tend to find the collectors an irritation, particularly if I'm in a hurry to get somewhere. And it's annoying when you have several people from the same organisation spaced out at 10m intervals along a street, so that you have to have the same conversation over and over again.

I also had a chat to a girl who was collecting for Greenpeace on the Strand a year or so ago, which didn't go according to her plan. E.g. she was talking about GM foods, and I said that they didn't bother me. "But aren't you worried about pollution?" I looked at the 100-odd cars stationary on the road, with exhaust pipes belching fumes, and said that it wasn't my top priority. Then she started saying that we needed to protect the rainforests, otherwise we'd run out of oxygen. While I agree that the rainforests are important, that line of argument is false. I explained that photosynthesis requires light, and that at night the reaction goes into reverse (i.e. plants take in oxygen and expel carbon dioxide), so it all cancels out. Given that I'd proved she didn't know what she was talking about, I didn't really feel that she was the best ambassador for their organisation...
I explained that photosynthesis requires light, and that at night the reaction goes into reverse (i.e. plants take in oxygen and expel carbon dioxide), so it all cancels out.

Since things that aren't plants (eg people, cars, marsupials) take in oxygen and expel carbon dioxide 24/7, you might hope for the sake of the long-term survival of the animal kingdom that the plants produce more oxygen than they consume...
I'm not an expert on this myself (my information basically comes from reading "The Science of Discworld"), but I think we mainly rely on algae in the sea to provide our oxygen. More specifically, it is false to say that "the rainforests are the lungs of the planet".