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Bah, when are these people going to realise that Free Trade isn't the problem?

We don't have Free Trade, we have massivly protected and subsidised trade due to the way we're propping up farming across europe where it really is not economically viable. If we stopped subsidising products we exported outside of the EU we'd give the developed world a break and save on our EU grants each year.

Hell, if we stopped the subsidies totally then the poor countries could export to us. Value for money and helping the developing world? It's almost like a good idea!!

Idiots.

Edit: As for Fair Trade, could anything smack more of shorttermism? Are we supposed to just keep on with the handouts forever? Hows about a plan to provide support through the Fair Trade subsidies to help producers move to a product there is a sustainable demand for? Don't get me wrong, it's a great way of helping people but you're back to the whole Fish/Net analogy. A continual supply of fish is not the solution we should be aiming for.
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Not sure I agree with you about Fair Trade. Give a person a fishing net and yes, they'll have fish for life, but how are they going to find the money to send their kids to school, pay for repairs to their fishing net and generally do anything other than subsistence fishing? Offer them a fair price for the fish they don't need to eat though, and you've helped them up another step of the ladder out of poverty.
I suppose my point is that paying this fair price without an end point in site is as futile as a handout. It is little different since you are choosing to give them the extra money.

What we need to do is get them producing products which can sell at market price and make them the money they need to build their societies up from poverty.

As I say, I do like Fair Trade in the short term, it just needs some long term plan and for all my searching I have found none...
That does make sense, and scrapping the CAP would be a fantastic plan. (Also a bloody obvious one if you're not French - this is an example of why I'm in favour of reducing the scope of the national veto in EU decision-making...)

The issue that fair trade tries to resolve is that farmers in the third world don't have the resources to get their products to the first world. This leaves them at the mercy of distributors, and market forces ensure that the farmers get shafted. I have a vague idea that you could do something like forming cooperatives of fair-trade cooperatives that would have enough capital to handle the distribution too...
The issue that fair trade tries to resolve is that farmers in the third world don't have the resources to get their products to the first world

This is a good point. Perhaps Fair Trade should move to Fair Transport?
... schemes such at this in fact are much more to my liking. Help them to help themselves, not rely on our charity, regardless of how you wrap it up.